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The "Giants' Teeth" from Sardinia

4/5/2015

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My main geographic interest in the "giants" phenomenon lies in North America, especially the Eastern Woodlands. While the situation here has its own sets of linguistic, historical, political, religious, cultural, and scientific dimensions that make it unique, it doesn't exist in isolation.  Beliefs in giants, both in the past and today, articulate with religion, culture, and archaeology in many parts of the world. So far I've made just a few excursions outside of North America:  I've discussed what size differences depicted in ancient Egyptian art might mean, looked an actual case of pituitary gigantism from ancient Rome, and talked about ethnographic examples of megalithic traditions in India and Sumba and Nias in Indonesia. 

Today we're going to Sardinia.

Sardinia is a large island west of the Italian Peninsula. Human occupation of the island dates to at least the Upper Paleolithic.  Neolithic and Bronze Age peoples built stone constructions on the island, some of which were "megalithic" in that they made use of very large stones. I'm not an expert on Mediterranean prehistory, but a quick review of information online makes it clear there is a lot of variability in the rock architecture of Sardinia.  The megalithic traditions on Sardinia overlap with those in other parts of Europe in terms of their timing and some of their architectural elements, but also have aspects that make them distinctive.

There is a current folk belief in ancient giants on Sardinia that appears to have a lot in common with
the situation in North America.  Just about everything I know about the belief in giants on Sardinia I am basing on this episode of the program Forbidden History, a 2014 series (produced in the UK) that says it "uncovers the truth behind great myths, conspiracy theories, ancient treasures, lost civilisations and war time secrets."  Like similar programs produced in the US, much of the emphasis is on travel and making the host appear intrepid. But this episode, at least, does reveal some interesting things about the belief in giants in Sardinia.
PictureScreenshot from "Forbidden History" showing one of the megalithic tombs on Sardinia that local tradition holds was built by giants.
The Sardinian tradition of giants is tied to the megalithic architecture on the island.  Commonalities to the North American situation are striking: a folk belief based partly on "mysterious" architecture; stories of finding the remains of giants passed down through generations or remembered from childhood; the idea that mainstream science and the government are actively suppressing the truth; and an almost absolute lack of direct physical evidence.

The only purported physical evidence of the remains of giants in Sardinia that I have come across is teeth.  I found four examples: two from the Forbidden History episode and two promoted by a UFO enthusiast trying to insert extraterrestrial visitors into Sardinia's prehistoric past.  In the first two of these cases I discuss, it is asserted that the teeth are human, but we are not permitted to actually see the teeth in detail.  Based on what is shown, the teeth do not appear to me to be human.  In the other two cases, just like the "replica" of the Denisovan tooth shown by Search for the Lost Giants, the teeth don't look anything like human teeth - anyone who knows anything about teeth wouldn't mistake them for being human in thousand years. 



PictureScreenshot from "Forbidden History" showing a purported giant's tooth.
Tooth 1: Donated by an Intimidated Informant

The first tooth is shown to us on Forbidden History (beginning about 24:00 into the episode).  The host waves the tooth around for a while, explaining that it was given to him by a farmer who refused to be interviewed because "he'd been warned off talking to us . . . we're not sure by whom or why."  The farmer claims it is a giant's tooth.

The screenshot to the left shows the best view we are given of the tooth.  We never get to see the occlusal surface (the part of of the tooth that comes into contact with other teeth), so all we have to go are the shape and proportions of the crown and the roots and the fact that there are three roots.

In the human dentition, the first and second maxillary molars (the grinding teeth on the upper jaw) are the only teeth that routinely have three roots. Sometimes mandibular molars have three roots instead of the usual two.  Anyway, based on what we are shown, it appears to be unlike any human molar tooth I have ever seen.  The crown appears rather tall, and the proportions and the crown and the roots just don't look right to me.  I suspect anyone with a rudimentary working knowledge of comparative dental anatomy would be able to quickly identify this tooth to the family level (i.e., whether it belonged to a cow, a deer, a pig, etc.) by looking at the cusps.  Maybe that's why the TV show doesn't actually let us see the occlusal surface.

PictureScreenshot from "Forbidden History" showing a purported giant's jaw examined by a dentist.
Tooth 2: The Testimony of a Dentist

The second tooth (actually a set of teeth) is also shown to us by Forbidden History (beginning about 30:00 into the episode).  The host interviews a dentist who claims to have analyzed a piece of bone containing three "very big molars" reportedly recovered from one of the "giant's tombs."  We are later told that the actual specimen is no longer available, having mysteriously disappeared after being given to the university in Cagliari.  So we are left with the dentist's recollections and a video taken while he was analyzing the specimen. 

The bone fragment appears to be part of a mandible.  We don't get to see the fragment with a scale (or in a good quality photograph), but the dentist states that one of these teeth was 30 mm and another was 35 mm (presumably those are mesial-distal length measurements).  What we are shown of the video is so poor that it is hard to tell anything about the teeth - the light is bright and most of the detail is washed out.  I messed with the contrast in Photoshop to try to bring out some of detail in the cusps of the teeth but it wasn't a great improvement.  The teeth appear to be bunodont (crowns that have rounded or conical cusps), which you find in the molars of omnivores such as humans, pigs, and bears.  Since we never get a good look at the cusps, it is hard to say what creature these teeth belonged to.  Based on looking at some publications on European fossil pigs (such as this one) I'd say a pig is a reasonable guess.  Again, it's hard to fathom why there is no single good, well-lit, scaled photo of this specimen that could be shown.  If I was given a piece of evidence that I thought would change history, I'm pretty sure I'd take a picture.  I'm certainly not buying this as a human jaw based on what I saw on Forbidden History.

PicturePhotograph of a purported "giant's tooth" from Paola Harris' website (cropped and adjusted).
Tooth 3: Authenticated by a UFO Journalist

The third tooth is touted as a "giant's tooth" on the website of UFO enthusiast Paola Harris.  It's nothing of the sort: it's an animal tooth that very clearly shows a pattern of enamel ridges looping around the occlusal surface and protruding from the dentine.  This is called a "lophodont" or "secodont" tooth and is found in a wide variety of herbivores, including horses, rhinos, tapirs, cows, and deer.  Humans do not have these kinds of teeth.

The image of the tooth I show here is cropped and adjusted to bring out the cusp pattern more clearly.  I don't know exactly what creature we're looking at here, but I can tell you with 100 percent confidence that this is not a human tooth.  Someone with better skills in comparative dental anatomy will be able to identify this easily from the photo.


PicturePhoto of purported "giant's jawbone" from Paola Harris' website.
Tooth 4: Another Paola Harris Special

Paola Harris' website also features a photo titled "giant jawbone" that is apparently supposed to show the jawbone of a human giant.  It is part of a mandible with portions of three teeth visible.  The bone and the teeth are in poor condition, but the high quality photograph makes it apparent that the specimen is not human.  The morphology of what's left of the teeth suggests, again, some kind of large herbivore.

The opening of this episode of Forbidden History features the host riding in helicopter in order to ask why so many ancient cultures have tales of giants. Accompanying this question is a montage of well-known fake photographs of giant skeletons that have been passed around the internet for years.  That pretty much sets the tone for what follows.   At one point they even show someone posing with Joe Taylor's femur sculpture. This program, like Search for the Lost Giants, could do a lot more "discovering of the truth" if it spent more money on paleontologists and less money on helicopter rides.  If they wanted to identify the teeth, they certainly could have (at least the one that the host was holding in his hand).

Here's a tip for all you "truth seekers" out there: learn something about your subject matter, or ask someone who already knows something.  Dentists and physicians are not your best bet, either: neither typically needs to recognize and identify bones and teeth outside of the human body (why would they?), and neither usually has even basic training in how to do that. Variation in animal teeth has been studied for a long time, and there are plenty of archaeologists, anatomists, and paleontologists who know a lot about the teeth of various animals as well as the teeth of humans.  These people, unlike dentists, physicians, and coroners, can recognize and identify remains that are not human because they are (1) actually trained to first ask the question "is it human?" and (2) equipped with practical knowledge of how to answer that question. 

I have nothing against farmers, journalists, TV producers, dentists, and UFO enthusiasts, but I do not trust their determinations of what's a human tooth and what's not.  And neither should you. If this is the best evidence giant enthusiasts can offer for Sardinia . . .  it's probably time to move on.
22 Comments
Greg Little
4/4/2015 11:14:06 pm

Another good article. Great work.

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sandy
4/26/2017 03:24:22 pm

Forget the teeth which were not human That has nothing to do with whether or not they existed Theres far more convincing material from Sardinia that prove they did not to mention all over the world and that includes the USA

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spookyparadigm
4/5/2015 04:56:46 am

More than a few in ufology aren't big fans of Harris, a regular in the Contactee-riddled exopolitics world. Not that the other stuff she vouches for is much better. If you hate yourself, read Corso's Roswell book.

http://www.ufowatchdog.com/paola_harris.htm

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Bob Jase
4/6/2015 03:50:16 am

I'm not an expert yet I could tell that 3 & 4 were definately not human. And 2 is not 30 mm considering its only a bit bigger than the thumbnail on the hand holding it - more like 15 to 20 at most.

i'd need more BP meds if I had to watch these shows.

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Hans
12/16/2015 09:48:05 pm

This is a great write up. I went looking for other opinions after I finished watching the giant show last night. I just think that show is really beneath you. Im not an expert on these matters, but this show had me laughing and unable to stop watching the train wreck well past my bedtime. The locals who guided the host were just plainly obvious to me to be completely full of it; particularly that Marcellas guy. When the dentist made his appearance in some attempt to legitimize the BS we were watching, I realized it was highly probable the supposed old clips of him investigating the tooth was more likely shot in the very recent past, and the dentist had simply shaved his head in an attempt at deceiving the audience with that story that the clips were years old and the tooth has been long since lost (due to more "obvious cover ups" by university officials who would have much more to gain by proving the veracity of the teeth's giant origins had they been the real deal).

I just got the feeling Marcellas paid a few members of his community to lie or make up stories in order to sucker the producers into coming out there paying for his "services" and as a guest on the show. It was not in any way whatsoever credible, just another black eye for History Channel.

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Jonas
2/7/2016 09:21:09 pm

Dude, that one square tooth is a horses' tooth.

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raoulbtc link
10/12/2018 07:39:05 pm

yea... it says that right next to it

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Steve
6/3/2016 08:56:53 am

It's such a shame to ridicule an important part of history , such amazing places still exist like those in Sardegna and it would be great to see more relevant studies done across nationalitys as the similarities in our shared history are amazing

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jj
12/23/2016 06:30:25 pm

thanks for the info! lot of mis-info out there.

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David p Abele
2/2/2017 10:22:40 pm

read the Urantia papers if you want to learn the truth of the giantism that ran in the orange and green races(who were around 9ft tall and which the biblical character Goliath the Phillistine was a descendant of) that predated the arrival of Adam & Eve/ the Adamic race(who were almost 8 ft tall themselves ) approx. 38,500 yrs ago ,the only question is..... can you handle the truth!!!...

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Marion
2/3/2017 07:47:30 am

What are the references to North American Giants -- didn't know what he was talking about.

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Ben link
5/2/2017 02:07:42 pm

Giants were real, beings created by interbreeding between woman and fallen angels (demons that could take on any form). Read Genesis 6. The Bible is a true history book guys. You know it deep down in you...seek Jesus for he died to atone for all us sinners. Read the Bible- yes, Old Testament too!

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asdfghj
1/21/2018 02:36:30 pm

Old testament is a lie and a hoax. It was written by exiled jews during the Assyrian invasion in 600BC. Hebrew is an old language; however, no papyrus, stone, paper copy has ever been found earlier than 600BC. Also, new DNA evidence proves humans came out of Africa to the rest of the world; whereas, the bible says humans came from Mesopotamia to Africa and other continents. So, Old Testament is a lie.

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asdsds
3/10/2018 05:09:56 am

You my friend, must be of the devil.

Kepha
7/3/2018 07:12:23 pm

So, Aristotle's _Politics_ must be a lie and a hoax, because its earliest manuscript dates from around 1200 A.D., and is a Latin translation.

Further, you do have the Sinaitic script which was carved into the wall of an ancient mine in the Sinai Peninsula, which dates to ca. 1500 B.C. (a little before the date of the Exodus).

Nita K
4/5/2018 09:19:50 pm

Yes! The Nephilim. They proceeded on after the flood from Hams bloodline. Read the Ethiopian book of Enoch. Puts everything into perspective when looking at the bible. LOVE IT!

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John Miller
9/10/2017 12:19:22 am

Skeptical either way: see tallest man ever:
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/tallest-man-ever.
Think of LittleJohn's grave, throw in little exaggeration & who knows?

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awebmonkey
10/28/2018 11:55:26 am

Why the hell isn't tooth 1 sown to a dentist then?
He says he was looking for hard proof then just pockets it.

No follow up at all? Sure it might be whatever, but he has it to test and fails to test it!

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Dave
11/16/2018 06:54:13 pm

That really ticked me off too. He gets handed a large tooth and then there is no further mention of it... Nothing, no mention of getting it tested, no information if it was an animal or human or what! Later scenes have the host talking to an archaeologist who said there was no proof and the host echoes that sentiment throughout the rest of the show with no explanation why. If it was debunked, it should have been included in the shoe...

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Barbara Schenck
10/27/2019 03:29:29 pm

Well done, Andy; I was watching that episode of "Forbidden History" and looked up the subject, found you. I'm an enthusiastic archaeology volunteer and student, and it gripes me no end when these little self serving, deluded souls point at some ambiguous piece of evidence and start screaming conspiracy theories about "mainstream archaeologists ". We have our share of that in Ohio, mostly about the Hopewell era. Soldier on, Andy.

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Rose White
10/8/2020 12:46:49 am

Meanwhile I live about 20 miles from the grave of the real giant of Market Weighton, East Yorkshire, https://www.google.com/search?q=market+weighton+giant.&rlz=1CAJQFF_enGB892&oq=market+weighton+giant.&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l2j69i64.4912j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8.
7ft 9 inches is big but lots of men get into the 6-6 range.
The ruins of Baalbek tell anyone with a brain that before The Flood there were plenty of real giants - Nephilim - around.

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Jack nasty
7/12/2021 11:14:42 pm

Get a brain

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