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Secrets, Secrets, Every Where, Nor Any Word to Read

1/10/2016

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Yesterday evening I got another email (CC'd to Steve) from J. Hutton Pulitzer, this one about my recent post titled "Hercules, Commodus, and the Florida Sword."  He didn't write to complain about the main content of the post, but about my statement that the books Solomon's Secret and Commodus's Secret have been on pre-order for over two years:

"Once again Andy, your facts are misleading and written in a libel manner.  The pre-order of the book has not even be around for two years as your quote AND has nothing to do with your article other than try to damage."

I disagree with the statement that the pre-order issues with the book(s) have nothing to do with that blog post. On the contrary, the book marketed as Commodus's Secret: Dirty Secrets Behind History Channel's "Curse of Oak Island" and the Truth about the Lost Roman Legion, Holy Solomonic Relics and the Secret of Hercules of the North, based on the title, is very relevant. The fact that the book is being sold on "pre-order" as #Swordgate develops also is relevant to the story. That's why I included it as a side note.

Pulitzer's editorial commentary aside, of course I want to get the facts straight. I told Pulitzer that I would gladly correct the post and asked him how long the book(s) had been on pre-order. As of this writing, there has been no answer to that question. When I went to visit the Solomon's Secret website so I could check for myself how I had arrived at the two year date, I found the website no longer accessible.

Not helpful, but also not a real problem.
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The cached version of the Solomon's Secret website shows an original post date of January 2, 2014.  Unless I fundamentally misunderstand the mysterious workings of the Gregorian calendar, the date of January 2, 2014, is, in fact, over two years ago. A reasonable person looking at the front page of the Solomon's Secret website would conclude, as I did, that the first promised book had been on sale for over two years.

But, of course, it could be that the website existed before the book was actually available for pre-order.  The earliest direct evidence of an ad that I have found so far is this video posted on Vimeo on November 20, 2014. The seven minute video, titled "CONTENTS of Solomon's Secret LIMITED EDITION Pre-Order Kit! SEE EVERYTHING YOU GET!," promises $172 worth of "free treasure hunting resources" when you pre-order your autographed copy of Solomon's Secret. 

This shorter YouTube video hawking Solomon's Secret was posted on December 2, 2014, a little over a year ago.

So Solomon's Secret has clearly been available for pre-order for at least 13 months.

Why the delays in getting this book to those who have paid for it?  A statement dated January 19, 2015, explains that the book cannot be shipped to the printer until that year's season (season 2) of The Curse of Oak Island had completed its run. Then, the statement says, the books will need to be autographed by Pulitzer and the various components of the "treasure hunting kit" assembled before shipping.

"In closing the materials are ready, but can’t be shipped to printers and manufacture yet. The ship to manufacturing will take place in about 3 weeks, so the series runs it course."

Well, apparently the dreams of those eagerly awaiting the big forbidden truth reveal of early 2015 went unrealized.   The book did not ship.

An update to the website dated November 15, 2015, says that while the original book (Solomon's Secret) was being revised and re-written (because . . . why?), another book was also being produced.  That "sequel" would be Commodus's Secret, the cover of which features the now-infamous sword that Pulitzer claims is a "100 percent confirmed" Roman artifact.

What happens now? Will there be a similar plea that the current season of The Curse of Oak Island has to finish its run before Commodus's Secret can be sent to the printer? Whatever that program is going to do with "the sword" has yet to happen. Episode 11 of season 3 (set to air on January 19, 2016) is titled "Sword Play," so unless there's another sword floating around there I presume they'll deal with the sword then.  As I've said before, my guess is that someone will look at it and say that it's probably of 19th century manufacture. If neither the show's expert, nor Steven Tuck, nor anyone else with independent credibility pronounces the sword to be of ancient Roman manufacture, what "secrets" are we left with?

We'll have to wait and see, I suppose.

In the meantime, I will provide one more quote from the now-invisible Solomon's Secret website:

"As far as orders, it is an automated process, and if you decide not to wait, it is an automated 100% guaranteed return process and, you can go back to order and cancel, and it will be process and then the one reserved for you, just becomes someone else’s gain."

I'm tempted to use some of the Woo War One money to order the books, but since I can't get to the website . . .

It's really a funny way of doing business. ​

Update 1/11/2016: Since this post, the links to videos advertising the "treasure kit" have become inaccessible.
13 Comments
Traveller
1/10/2016 06:45:20 am

The secret is how he spends your hard earned money on books that don't exist.

Probably on Rockguard

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Joe Scales
1/10/2016 08:02:45 am

Is "Steve" a criminal lawyer? Should refunds not be had, one of those might come in handy.

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Peter Geuzen
1/10/2016 08:42:39 am

http://www.treasureforce.com/ and http://expeditionhistory.org/ are both gone and redirect to http://investigatinghistory.org/

http://treasureforce.tumblr.com/ is also gone

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Annie link
1/10/2016 12:30:45 pm

Sounds like Hutton is trying to hide his electronic history, but screen shoots hold the truth and have a date stamped

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Peter Geuzen
1/10/2016 09:46:26 am

Increase the timeline to at least 16 months. Here are the urls for the cover shots, both dated Sept. 2014:

https://oakislandtreasurehistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/commodus-secret-front-cover-sept-17.jpg
https://oakislandtreasurehistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/solomons-secret-front-cover-sept-17.jpg

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craby
1/10/2016 10:02:44 am

Peter of those websites are back up and running as well as the third.

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Peter Geuzen
1/10/2016 12:27:34 pm

The first two urls (web addresses) I note, had separate content in the past, but now if you type them in or if you had them bookmarked there is an automatic redirection to the third url. Likewise, the tumblr treasureforce website had separate content but it is now just plain gone, or in other words the account deleted. Nonetheless, it was just a lot of repeat and cross-referenced copy-paste stuff between sites. Upon further checking: https://www.instagram.com/TreasureForce and https://www.pinterest.com/TreasureForce and https://www.facebook.com/treasure.force are also gone. Looks like some web washing of as many references as possible to treasureforce is underway.

So not only do the folks who put money in his pocket for books that now appear to be up in the air, get burned, but he’s going to have to revise his social media numbers in the ‘I’m bigger than Scott Wolter’ game that Andy has reported on before.

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Greg Little
1/10/2016 10:07:41 am

HP has had a very recent interview, which seems to disclose his details and his strategy on the sword: https://soundcloud.com/InvestigatingHistory

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Andy White
1/10/2016 10:40:10 am

The January 2nd one? I am aware of it but haven't had the time (1:48) or inclination to listen myself, so I'm not sure if there is anything in it that isn't in the various blog posts and newspaper articles.

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Greg Little
1/10/2016 10:53:36 am

Yes, Jan 2. It's really long, and I'm about 1.5 hours in. He does essentially reveal where he's heading with this, and admitted that it is totally illegal to do underwater wreck work in Canada without a permit. It is also implied, at least in a way, that the sword could be claimed by Canada based on the claims made about its discovery--although it appears the statute of limitations may apply in a way. In essence, he is tying in a lot of other artifacts he says were found in Canada to the Roman hypothesis. It looks like a lot more artifacts will be drawn in to his arguments. Statuary, coins, stone anchors, several other artifacts he mentioned, DNA "evidence" (he says it's human DNA) and some mounds are things he cites as support for the sword and the whole hypothesis.

Andy White
1/10/2016 12:16:16 pm

The sword is the so-called "smoking gun" of the case, so I'm mostly interested in that for now. As far as I know he hasn't provided much evidence about all the other stuff, just the usual laundry list of assertions.

The two key things we still haven't been told about the sword are:

1) Where is this so called "original" in a museum and how do we know it's Roman?

2) What were the methods and results of the XRF analysis that proves that the sword is Roman?

Without those answers . . . just blah blah blah blah, for the most part.

Jeff link
2/3/2016 02:38:56 pm

That Pulitzer is a swindler and a thief. I was dumb enough to order the book back in November 2015 right when it was supposed to come out. I emailed multiple times and never got a response. It wasn't until I opened a dispute with PAYPAL that I got a reply in which I was told that the item would ship by Feb 2016. And so I was duped again by this asshat because I have now discovered that the website no longer works and a quick search on Facebook shows you that there is a new release date of Nov 2016. I have tried multiple times to cancel and get a refund but never get a reply. I do have half a mind to drive out east and kick his ass.

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Mike Morgan
6/28/2016 08:15:01 am

Jeff, if you are monitoring, you may find some helpful information on Andy' Facebook group "Fake Hercules Swords" @ https://www.facebook.com/groups/458600194323519/ under post: Hartman Krug feeling funny.
May 28 at 6:30pm
Fight for Truth...........yeah rrrrright.........

As well as Andy"s recent blog: http://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog/sunday-morning-ripoff-report-your-solomons-secret-preorder

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