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Oahspe: When Matings with Angels Don't Produce Giants

2/8/2016

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As I mentioned in yesterday's post about the "ancient relic of Mu" (a modern copper alloy pot from India), I have just come across Oahspe (pronounced O as in o'clock, AH as in father, SPE as in speak) for the first time. I'm not sure how I never heard of this before, but I'm finding it fascinating. For those of you ignorant of Oahspe, it is an 1882 book of spiritual revelations reportedly produced by John Ballou Newbrough (1828–1891) through automatic writing. The title page contains this description:
"A New Bible in the Words of Jehovih and His Angel Ambassadors. A Sacred History of the Dominions of the Higher and Lower Heavens on the Earth for the Past Twenty-Four Thousand Years together with a Synopsis of the Cosmogony of the Universe; the Creation of Planets; the Creation of Man; the Unseen Worlds; the Labor and Glory of Gods and Goddesses in the Etherean Heavens; with the New Commandments of Jehovih to Man of the Present Day."
Here it is on Google Books.

Several things interest me about Oahspe.  

First, it contains a tale of human racial history and dispersal from a "lost continent" in the Pacific. I'm interested in how the ideas in Oahspe articulate with political and scientific thinking in late 1800's America. 

Second, it's one of several nineteenth century American religious developments based on received revelations. Unlike the Book of Mormon (1830) and the prophecies of Seventh-Day Adventist (SDA) Ellen G. White (experienced from 1844-1863), however, the writings in Oahspe did not develop a large following (I don't know how many Faithists there are today, but certainly many fewer than there are Mormons or Seventh-Day Adventists).

Third, I'm interested in the person and the process. Newbrough was born near where I grew up (Wikipedia says Mohicanville, Ohio, while I've seen other sources online specify Wooster, Ohio, and Springfield, Ohio) and apparently used a typewriter for his "automatic writing." And there are apparently connections between his dental practice and his spirituality.

Anyway, the first thing I did was look for giants in Oahspe.  They're pretty much absent from the Book of Mormon. In SDA and Young Earth Creationist traditions, humans closer to creation were "bigger, better, and smarter" than the degenerated humans of today. What does Oahspe have to say?
Here are the passages from "First Book of the First Lords" (Chapters 1-3) that describe the various interbreedings among animal, human, and spiritual beings:
PicturePlates 3 and 4 from Oahspe. Asu is depicted in the top. From left to right on the bottom are I'hin, I'huan, and Yak.
​"CHAPTER I.
​1. In the beginning God created the heavens of the earth; and the Lord made man upright. And man was naked and not ashamed; neither knew man the sin of incest, but he dwelt as the beasts of the field.

2. And the Lord brought the angels of heaven to man; by his side took they on forms like unto man, having all the organs and attributes of mortals, for it was the time of the earth for such things to be.

3. And it came to pass that a new race was born on the earth, and these were called I'hins, because they were begotten of both heaven and earth. Hence it became a saying: The earth conceived of the Lord.

4. And the name of the first race was Asu (Adam), because they were of the earth only; and the name of the second race was I'hin (Abel), because they were capable of being taught spiritual things.

5. And the Lord said: Of all that live on the face of the earth, or in the waters thereof, or in the air above, that breathes the breath of life, man only have I delivered unto knowledge of his Creator.

6. And the Lord spake unto the I'hin, through his angels spake he to them, saying: Go hide thy nakedness, for it is the commandment of God.

7. And The I'hins were afraid, and they clothed themselves, and were no longer naked before the Lord.

8. And the Lord commanded the angels to give up their forms, and to be no more seen as mortals. And it was done. And the Lord said unto them: Because ye brought forth life, which is in flesh and blood, ye shall minister unto man for six generations on the face of the earth. And it was so.

9. And that man may continue to walk upright, ye shall teach him the law of incest, for man of himself cannot attain to know this.

10. Neither shall ye permit the I'hins to dwell with Asu (Adam), lest his seed go down in darkness.

11. And man was thus inspired of the Lord, and he walked upright, and prospered on the earth.

12. But after a season man became conceited in his own judgment, and he disobeyed the commandments of God.

13. And he strayed out of the garden of paradise and began to dwell with the asu'ans (Adams), and there was born into the world a new race called Druk (Cain), and they had not the light of the Father in them, neither could they be inspired with shame, nor of heavenly things.

14. And the I'hins were grateful to the Lord, and they gave sacrifice in burnt offerings. And they said unto the Druks: Go ye and sacrifice unto the Lord, and he will prosper you. But the Druks understood not; and they fell upon the Lord's chosen, and slew them, right and left, taking their possessions.

15. And the Lord said unto the Druks: Because ye have slain your brethren ye shall depart out of the place of God; and that ye may be known to the ends of the earth I put my mark upon you.

16. And the mark of the Lord put upon the Druks was the shadow of blood, which, being interpreted, is WAR.

17. And the Lord God said: By this sign shall the tribes of Druk and their descendents be known unto the end of the world.

18. And woman, being more helpless than man, cried out with fear, saying: O Lord, how shall I bring forth unto thee, and not unto the sons of death?

19. And the Lord said: Because thou hast brought forth in pain, and yet called on my name, behold I will be unto thee as a shield and protector. For I will also put a mark upon the I'hins, my chosen, so thou shalt know them when they come unto thee.

20. And the Lord commanded the male I'hins, old and young, to be circumcised, that woman might not be deceived by the druks. And the I'hins circumcised one another, old and young; for it was the testimony of the Lord unto woman that seed of their seed was born to everlasting life.

21. And the druks (Cain) went away into the wilderness, and dwelt with the asu'ans and with one another.

22. God said: A boundary line will I make betwixt the tribes of druks and the I'hins; and this is the line that I the Lord God make betwixt them:

23. The I'hins shall labor and clothe themselves, and I will abide with them; but the druks shall wander in the wilderness, neither laboring nor clothing themselves.

24. And it was so. 

CHAPTER II.

1. The time of the habitation of Asu was eight thousand years; and they survived two thousand years after the time of the birth of the I'hins, which is to say: Asu dwelt on the earth six thousand years, and then conceived of the chosen of God; and after that survived yet two thousand years.

2. And Asu (Adam) disappeared off the face of the earth.

3. And there remained on the earth the sacred people, the I'hins; and the carnivorous people, the druks.

4. The I'hins were white and yellow, but the druks were brown and black; the I'hins were small and slender, but the druks were tall and stout.

5. Now, because the druks had not previously obeyed the Lord, but went and dwelt with the asu'ans, there was a half-breed race born on the earth, called Yak, signifying ground people; and they burrowed in the ground like beasts of the forest. And the Yaks did not walk wholly upright, but also went on all fours.

6. God said: Because the Yaks cannot be taught the crime of incest, behold they shall not dwell forever on the earth. So also shall it be with the druks, save wherein they cohabit with the I'hins, whose seed is born unto everlasting life. But with the druks, and their heirs that spring from the Yaks, there shall be an end, both in this world and the next.

7. And the arms of the Yaks were long, and their backs were stooped and curved. And the Lord said: Because they are the fruit of incest, and not capable of speech, nor of eternal life in heaven, the I'hins shall make servants of them.

8. And that they may not tempt my chosen to bring forth fruit unto destruction, they shall be neutralized in my sight. And the angels of God taught the I'hins to make eunuchs of the Yaks; of the males and females made the I'hins eunuchs of the Yaks, and took them for servants.

9. And the Lord said: The Yaks shall serve the I'hins, and build and sow and reap for them. And it was so.
 . . .

CHAPTER III.
. . .
23. And again the Lord brought the I'hins together in lodges and cities, and he said unto them: Henceforth ye shall live upon the earth as an example of righteousness. And your brethren who have mingled with the tribes of darkness shall no longer molest you, but be your defenders and protectors.

24. And there began to be a new tribe on the earth; and they were called I'huans, because they were half-breeds, betwixt the druks and I'hins. The I'huans were red like copper; and they were taller and stronger than any other people in all the world. And the Lord commanded the I'huans, saying:

25. Protect ye the I'hins, the little people, white and yellow; call them THE SACRED PEOPLE. For ye are of them, and ye are also of the Lord your God. And it was so."

That's a whole lot of inter-breeding going on.  I made a chart so I could keep it straight:
Picture
It appears to me that you can arrange these "races" described in Oahspe on a continuum from "spiritual/angelic" to "animal."  The "sacred beings" that are the products of matings between angels and Asu (apparently some kind of non-spiritual biped) are the I'hin.  The I'hin are rather small, light-skinned people.

In the Oahspe version of prehistory, it's the crossing of spiritual and animal beings that produces "true" humans that are apparently rather small.  This contrasts sharply with the Nephilim-centric view of the past wherein such matings produced corrupt, giant, evil beings.  

When humans (I'hin) go against instructions and mate with the non-human hominds (Asu), they produce something called a druk (druk is equated with "giant" only once that I see in Oahspe -- The Lord's First Book, chapter 1, verse 29). Druks are not fully human. Yaks, the products of matings between druks and the animal Asu, are even worse off. Matings between the not-fully-human druks and the I'hin produce the tall, strong, red-skinned, "half-breed" I'huan, which Faithists apparently take as Native Americans.

I've stumbled across several online attempts to reconcile the racial scheme of Oahspe with the fossil record (druks as Neanderthals, I'hin as Homo floriensis, Asu as Ardipithecus ramidus, etc.). The timing of Oahspe is particularly interesting in that regard. It was written decades after publication of Darwin's On the Origin of Species (1859) but just prior to the discovery and/or recognition of human fossil remains in Indonesia and Europe in the late 1880's and 1890's. The idea of a sunken continent in the Pacific seemed plausible at the time, and was proposed as a way to account for the geographic distribution of plants and animals as well as the lack of a human fossil record.
19 Comments
Dr. Greg Little
2/8/2016 10:07:05 am

A lot of copies of the Oahspe were actually produced and sold. It was a very widely-read book, but not popular. It relates the 4 great religions of the world are false and are traps for souls and that is, to me, the reason why it was not "popular" other than selling a lot of copies. The odd thing is that it has several variations of the same timeframes told from different perspectives.

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Andy White
2/8/2016 10:09:24 am

"several variations of the same timeframes told from different perspectives."

Maybe that's why it's got parts of two different books going on the same pages? Like they're supposed to be read in parallel? It's confusing.

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Pablo
2/8/2016 11:01:48 am

Just yesterday afternoon a guy approached me to talk to me about Jesus and how his life was changed. When I explained to him that I believe in evolution given the evidence existing, he smiled and said: "you see, I'm a scientist; I'm a microbiologist". Then he told me that the garden of Eden where Adam and Eve lived was found to be in Ethiopia, "same place where Lucy was found"... (Oh my) So I asked him if he knew what Lucy looks like and he said "No". I sent him across the street to the National History Museum to see the replica of Lucy's skeleton. He then said that, according to this brilliant neuroscientist that is famous around the world and is running for President (Ben Carson), the fossils that have been found are actually fossils or regular humans with deformities.

In short, these people are absolutely ignorant and deniers of Science. I put him against the wall with arguments, and he was really nervous so I let him go.

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Andy White
2/8/2016 11:03:22 am

I would like to find fossils of the Yaks. Apparently there should be a lot of them.

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Andy White
2/8/2016 11:07:02 am

Here you go: this website has all kinds of stuff relating the "races" in Oahspe to different fossils. It appears as though the Yaks are sasquatch/bigfoot.

http://www.studyofoahspe.com/id43.html

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robert bayer link
12/28/2019 06:13:38 am

NOPE! Fake. Do not trust that site! There are no fossils of Yaks anywhere.

Woodson Payne
5/26/2018 07:14:01 pm

Just for the record, take out the word I'hin, and replace it with Aryan, and you have the same creation myths of Thule Society and the Nazi party.
Pull your head out of the sand, and read science, not this garbage.
This is alternate history, that completely ignores scientific knowledge.
Pseudo Science is the basis for this story, nothing here is based on scientific knowledge. This is thinly veiled CULT recruiting DOGMA.
This is total rubbish and you know it.

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robert bayer
5/26/2018 07:47:43 pm

Please be very careful when reading Oahspe. You can email me for a book I am writing on it concerning its creation and phony editing. robertbayer3741@yahoo.com

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Pentirah
9/6/2018 04:09:54 am

I have red Oahspe and found it interesting. I must say the mark of circumcision is also carried by Islam - and they are now, many of them, murderers and warmongers. Others who circumcise are also of violent nature, so this part of the book does not ring true to me..

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Woodson Payne
1/13/2019 05:50:38 pm

Oahspe has been investigated for the past 60 some years, and every report, every research article, and every biography has found that Newbrough was an absolute charlatan who bamboozled countless dozens of people joining his mind control cult.
Much of Oahspe turns out to be plagiarized from other authors such as Andrew Jackson Davis, and Rene Descartes.
The entire book of Jehovah's Kingdom on Earth was plagiarized from Davis's 1847 book, Nature and Her Divine Principles. And, Cosmogony was plagiarized from Rene Descartes Vortex Motion Theory of Planets.
The story of Fragapatti, was handily stolen from Hindu Mythology, namely Prattipati.
Even the Circle and Cross claimed to be Jehovah's symbol, was stolen from old Norse Mythology, and the Circle and Cross has been THOR's Symbol since the 12th Century. Thor, The GOD OF WAR. This is who you worship when you believe this goddamn Oahspe mind control bullshit.
I'm not prattling on, as some idle observer, I am a ANTI-Oahspe Bible Cult Educator, for the past 24 years online. Trying to educate idiots like yourselves, into learning the real history of this Doomsday Cult.
I was in a UFO Doomsday Cult that was waiting for a UFO Rescue, in southern California in the 1980s. There were 15 different Oahspe Bible UFO Doomsday Cults from 1970 until 1986. All of these groups were waiting for a Etherean UFO Ship to take them to the moon.
Another group, Brothers of Shalam, in Albion was another Oahspe Bible UFO Doomsday Cult waiting for the end of the world. This group of three homosexual Oahspe Bible Priests, were known as the Three Wise Men, to the outside world in Albion, California.

They are accused by former run away boys of being drugged with LSD and Raped by the three homosexual Oahspe Bible Priests.

Stop me if you have heard this one.

Another Oahspe Bible UFO Doomsday Cult, Universal Brotherhood, in Balingup, Australia, was lead by cult leader Fred Robinson. This cult was also waiting for the end of the world, and a UFO Rescue. The cult even bought an adjacent property in Balingup, western Australia, that had an air strip on it, so the goddamn Space Brothers could land their UFO Ships on.
Another Oahspe Bible cult in Albion, Colorado, starved 12 Children to death over a 12 month period. 6 deaths occured in one month.

Another Oahspe Bible cult in Placentia starved two children to death. Cult leader George Rinsdale Hinde, starved his own 18 year old daughter to death over a two year period, by locking her in her room, and feeding her bread and water.

A coroner's inquest found that Alice Hinde, was starved to death. And like all dangerous murderers, her father, hid her corpse in the garden, so authorities could not perform an autopsy. A coroner's inquest found that Alince Hinde, was starved to death.

Another Oahspe group, Four Winds Village, in Tiger Georgia, was the scene of a grisly murder of Oahspe promoter Ray Schlipman. His body was found just on the back of the estate, with his head bashed in. $10,000 in cash money was stolen from his room the same day.

As you read this, Black Nationalists and Black Hebrew Nationalists are being lured into yet another Oahspe Bible cult in the southeastern United States. This cult is a Black Nationalist cult that believes that Oahspe was written by a Black Man and Newbrough stole the manuscript, and published it under his name. This is a very dangerous BLACK Supremacist Group, that uses the same techniques as the KKK, but preys on uneducated lower middle class African Americans.

If that were not crazy enough, White Supremacists cult leaders are now using Oahspe, to recruit White Nationalists who secretly worship HITLER. I say secretly, they are pretty open about it.

So, if you think this is some benign spiritualist book, guess again. This religious is going through its MILITANT PHASE, and these people are very ARMED AND VERY DANGEROUS.

I can show you person after person and their AK47, and M16 Assault Rifles who are followers of Oahspe.

This is not a group of people to fuck around with. These people are ARMED and VERY, VERY DANGEROUS.

Woodson Payne
Oahspe Bible UFO Doomsday Cult Survivor.
woodsonpayne at gmail dot com

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Woodson Payne
4/20/2019 05:55:49 pm

POSTED BY AN OAHSPE BIBLE UFO DOOMSDAY CULT SURVIVOR W/ UPDATED INFORMATION:
This is a dangerous mind control cult, and this book, and its followers have destroyed the lives of many, many people. This group is infamous for various criminal acts including: the starvation deaths of 12 infants children and babies in Arboles, Colorado; the starvation deaths of 2 children in Placentia, California; the LSD drugging and raping of underage run away boys in Albion, California; the unsolved murder of Ray Shlipmanin Tiger, Georgia, who was an Oahspe Publisher; an Australian Oahspe Bible UFO Doomsday Cult, and some 15 ufo doomsday cults in Anaheim, California from 1970 to 1986.

This book breeds complete INTOLERANCE, for everyone who is not a follower of this MIND CONTROL CULT. It teaches hatred for the Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindu, Buddhists, doctors, lawyers, organized democracy, free speech, and freedom of religion.

Many UFO/Doomsday cults have been based on this SICK BOOK, and many people have been harmed physically and psychologically by association with these Oahspe Bible Religious Cults. These cults have destroyed many marriages, destroyed family relationships, ruined many careers, and caused people to just walk away from their family and children, to go live in a cult commune waiting for the end of the world.

This cult excels at destroying relationships between family members who have a different religion or belief system. Typically, a cult leader starts humiliating and brow beating any member who has a loved one outside the cult. They harp and bicker, brow beat and abuse the cult member until finally they cut off all association with family and friends. This cult has a totalitarian world view that cannot tolerate any member to have outside influences.

This is why this cult, for over 147 years, has continually destroyed the families and friendships of cult members and their children. If a cult member has a husband or wife who breaks away from the cult, the cult leaders of this sick religion will go out of their way to destroy that relationship. If the cult member has a father or mother who is not in the cult, or has left the cult, they will destroy that relationship also.
It is all about controlling the cult member, controlling who their friends are, controlling who they marry, controlling what books they read, controlling what they watch on TV, and controlling what they read in the newspaper.

Now, with the internet, these FANATICS, are RANTING AND RAVING about this and that quotation from Oahspe that they repeat like a PARROT. It is like listening to a ROBOT read Chinese. They all seem like brainwashed ZOMBIES, who have no idea what they are saying.

One simple truth is certain. These OAHSPE BIBLE MIND CONTROL CULTS are recruiting new members as you read this, in their YOUTUBE media blitz. They are almost as PROLIFIC as ISIS, the extremist MILITANT ISLAMIC CULT.

And speaking of ISIS, were you aware that previous Oahspe BIble Cults have required married male converts to turn over their wives to the Oahspe Bible Cult for SEXUAL BREEDING PURPOSES?

The Los Angeles Herald, July 14, 1895 issue, investigated a FREE SEX OAHSPE BIBLE CULT in Placentia, California. Their name was, "Societas Fraternia," and was known to locals as the "Grass Eaters." It was well documented in the Los Angeles Herald, in a five part series that an Oahspe Bible Cult there, was involved in recruiting wealthy land owners in the Placentia, California area, and one of the CULT LEADERS confessed to the Herald reporter that, "yes, the cult did require new married men who were joining the CULT, to turn over their wives to the cult for SEXUAL BREEDING PURPOSES."

Two cult members of "Societas," were indicted on murder charges in the death of a one year old infant, who was literally starved to death. According to published reports, the infant was raised from birth on PEELED apples. At one years old, it was nothing but SKIN and bones. This child was so ill it couldn't even cry. The child was placed in FOSTER care, but was so sickly it died shortly after.

George R. Hinde, and Dr. Louis Schlesinger were indicted on murder charges, but the trial in Orange County, California was later dropped because of the horrible publicity the murder trial was bringing the Orange County, California region.

George R. Hinde, was also involved in starving his own 18 year old daughter to death, who was not keen on Oahspe, or a vegetarian diet. The father, locked his daughter in her room and gave her bread and water for two years. A coroner’s inquest found that, Alice Hinde, the daughter of the cult leader, George R. Hinde, died after a two-year diet of bread and water, and was buried in an unmarked grave in the garden, out the back door, without even a gravestone. The cult leader hid the body in an unmarked grave, so authorities would not find out he murdered his own daughter by starving her to death. A coroner's inquest found that Alice Hinde was starved

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Bill
8/20/2019 01:54:47 pm

I think that the original book was spot on. Given to us by angelic beings who only come here once every so many thousands of years. They (the angelic space beings) then gave it to a Freemason. Why? Because it was purposely allowed to be seriously tainted. We are not supposed to put our total faith in a book, religion, belief system, and so on. We need to filter everything we read in Oahspe. It holds much truth. It holds many lies. Lets put on our own individual thinking caps and create our own belief systems. Thank you, Mother, Father Creator of All. Thank you for each day given by you to us. Amen.

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Woodson Payne
8/29/2020 09:03:56 pm

Sounds like the space beings were racists also.
Look into the Moud build myth, the "white and yellow," mound builders as Oahspe calls them.
This was the lie told by white men, to justify the Indian Removal Act of 1830, which led to the murder and forced death march known as the Trail of Tears.
It has now been verified that the I'hin myth in Oahspe was plagiarized from the Book of Mormon. Newbrough, just changed a few names.
The I'hin mound builder myth in Oahspe, originally surfaced prior to 1830, in the Book of Mormon.
https://youtu.be/kTOWAgNDIDE
You all have been duped into believing an ANTI-Native American LIE told by white men, to justify the murder of Native Americans, and the theft of thousands of acres of Native American homelands.
You have the blood of thousands of Native American's who perished during the TRAIL OF TEARS. Read a history book for God's sake, and stop believing these goddamn lies told in Oahspe.
Read the truth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act

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robertus
10/29/2020 12:57:30 am

I came across Oahspe as a young teenager. Such a big and complex book, I dug into the book out of curiosity. Much I didn't understand, yet some of the writings hit my recognition of truth button in my gut. However, the teenage years are short on attention span and variety is a must. I was no different. And Oahspe was soon on the the shelf collecting dust. Though my small exposure left an indelible mark in my memory
I investigated many philosophical and religious schools of thought, Eastern and Western. Fortunately I did not adopt any. And told others I was a 'free thinker'
Life sped along, and I developed a reasonably successful career in the sciences, and a stable & mostly happy family.
It has been recently after some very stressful times in my life that I remembered Oahspe and returned to attempt reading it .
The accuracy of the anthropology, geography and history I have not researched to ascertain its accuracy. Though some have confirmed that Oahspe writes of facts that have, since its publication, been proven facts by scientists & investigators. This sounds reasonable in accordance what I have read
The knowledge & wisdom in the book is a source of comfort to me at this time in my life. Allowing me to see much more of the 'big picture' of my own and most human lives.
Despite begin an avid scientists, I have had many experiences outside what science could answer. And assumed I would never get answers By reading this wonderful book I have been able to replace many of my fears with understanding.
I read comments where people assumed Oahspe was associated with or was/is a cult.
Oahspe is a book that offers its information without any requirements to 'believe' its contents, or worship anyone or thing. And there are no dire or deadly consequences outlined if one does Not do as prescribed
And no membership or fees
Therefore, reading and applying the ethical principles outlined in Oahspe does not have any association with any cult or following
Whereas all formal religions are by dictionary definition, in reality cults.
Oahspe is well suited to the man or woman with an insatiable curiosity about life that is not willing to 'just believe'
Instead wants truth in knowledge that can be verified by facts, figures and/or demonstration
I remain...a free thinker

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Ty Buchanan link
2/2/2023 05:28:28 pm

A question must be asked,

Are entitities, deceased humans and otherwise, really God and Gods as set out therein in Oahspe; or are they Annunaki from another part of space interfering in human evolution and development?

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Oahspe reader
11/21/2020 07:45:49 am

Any holy book can be used to start a cult religion. Abusive cults have been started using the Bible as their basis. Does that mean the Bible should be rejected for that reason alone?
What I like so much about Oahspe is that you don’t have to filter out any morally mixed messages. The moral standard is only high and above reproach in Oahspe. No one could say, I punished my child to death because Oahspe says it’s allowed. But a Bible cult leader can justify doing that by quoting several Bible verses and even try to plead in court that he has religious exemption to do so based on his belief that the Bible is true.

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Oahspe reader
11/21/2020 08:15:03 am

I’m recently into learning ancient history and then seeing whether Oahspe backs up what archaeologists and historians are finding.
Here are a few,
The Book of Thor last paragraphs correspond to the Younger Dryas climate change for same time period.
The Book of Wars Against Jehovih reveals an answer to the current mystery of what really caused the Late Bronze Age collapse.
‘The Basis of the Ezra Bible’ dates given are not being contradicted by current findings of archaeologists in the area.

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Ty Buchanan link
2/2/2023 05:16:16 pm

Tests on the Moon show that it was brought here as told in Ohaspe. It was not formed out of material from Earth by collision of a body in space with the Earth.

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Ty Buchanan link
2/2/2023 05:11:44 pm

The Ohaspe bible says that the Moon was brought here from somewhere else. For a long time scientists held that the Moon was formed by material ripped out of Earth by a collision with a large body in space. Samples from the Moon now show that the moon was never part of Earth.This does point to Ohaspe being correct and valid.

A concern for me is that God is not the one and only creator God. Yahweh, etc., seem to be appointed to rule for a time.

The book is a never ending description of the great worshipping of lesses Gods met in space by souls passed over from various planets.There is a lot of bowing down to superiors - a very hierarchical picture.

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