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Bon Voyage, Fake Hercules Swords

4/1/2016

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It is with a little sadness that I report that I have shipped both copper alloy Fake Hercules Swords (the California sword and the Italian eBay sword) that I've had in my possession back to the rightful owners. I think we can all agree that they served us all well in cracking #Swordgate, and I'm grateful to the owners for sending them to me and allowing me to hold onto them for so long.  While there is still a lot that can be learned from those swords, I obviously haven't been able to find much time to work with them since the semester started. So now the crappy Design Toscano sword is the only one in my office. It alone guards the interior of my Fake Hercules Sword filing cabinet drawer.

The last thing I did with the Italian eBay sword was compile a series of 3D scans of the front surface of the blade. I had to do it in five sections.  'm still processing that data, but will make it available on SketchFab when it's done. Ideally I would have been able to do the back of the blade also and produce a model of the full sword, but I can't realistically say when I would have had the time to follow through with all that. So I just did the front, which is the surface that revealed the common casting anomalies that really busted the "Roman sword" claim during the glorious January of Swordgate.

With the owner's permission, I took some small samples of the base metal of the California sword before sending it back. My plan has always been to try to get metal composition results comparable to the basic data reported by Christa Brosseau (i.e., the percentages of copper and zinc).  I don't have any expertise in metals analysis, so I am dependent upon outside advice and the abilities/capabilities of the equipment and operators available to me on campus. So I hope I've taken enough metal for the SEM and I hope I've collected the samples appropriately. I'll keep you posted on what I learn.

Bon voyage, California and Italian eBay swords. It was nice knowing you.
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3D model of the front surface of the Italian eBay (Type J) sword, processing in progress.
13 Comments
Pablo
4/1/2016 12:23:51 pm

I'm glad I was part of this fight. Pseudoscience didn't win this one!

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Gina Torresso
4/1/2016 12:53:40 pm

Andy, thank you so much for all your hard work! You are amazing, and I'm glad your on my side! Thank you

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Trevor Furlotte
4/1/2016 01:21:34 pm

Anything I can do to help shut up Bullshitzer is my pleasure.

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Andy White
4/1/2016 02:21:10 pm

I was trying to 3D model of the Italian eBay sword done so I could post it before I went home for the weekend, but it ain't gonna happen. I'll put it up first thing Monday morning.

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Killbuck
4/1/2016 02:33:18 pm

I too am pleased to have been a part of this unique and fascinating experience.

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Pete
4/1/2016 03:04:41 pm

Andy, thank you for all you have done and continue to do. Its really great work and very time consuming I'm sure.

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pferk
4/1/2016 03:41:56 pm

Thanks... it is still a fascinating topic and an adventure in research... The latest news is that there just might be another Viking site discovered in Canada... no Roman swords there...

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Peter Geuzen
4/1/2016 05:54:03 pm

Goodbye Hercules!
With you help,
We brought one to his knees.
His story made us board,
It was the BS of the Roman sword.
But now you shall depart,
And we will sigh with a heavy heart.
These past months were great,
Filled with the fun of Swordgate.

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Gina Torresso
4/1/2016 06:18:05 pm

I love that Peter G.!!

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Peter Geuzen
4/1/2016 08:06:38 pm

It would help if I could spell check....bored not board :-)

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Killbuck
4/1/2016 07:39:04 pm

Well, we can always look forward to the confirmed Roman shipwreck.

Stop me before I snark again!!

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Josh
4/1/2016 11:25:52 pm

I still have yet to see either J. Hutton Pulitzer or any of his acolytes try to explain the "J"-type casting anomaly that's present on the Oak Island sword... Since the exact same anomaly can be found on the other swords that are known to be modern replicas, it's not so easy to dismiss away under the pretense of "bad faith in academia" or whatever.

That's a very real and easy-to-understand issue with these swords that I wish SOMEONE in his camp would acknowledge, because I'd be interested to find out how they'd rebut it, if at all. I'd much rather see any of them just stop for a minute and consider the possibility that JHP has lied to them, though.

I guess common sense ends where belief begins...

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Andy White
4/2/2016 04:13:37 am

I would not be surprised to find that he's still telling people the Italian eBay sword is "stone" that's painted bronze and the PICTURE of the Italian eBay sword is actually a picture of the imaginary sword in the Naples Museum. It takes a special lack of critical thinking skills to still b buying into the tangle of sword misinformation he created.

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