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Additional Photos of Fake Hercules Sword No. 17

2/27/2017

4 Comments

 
The owner of Fake Hercules Sword 17 has sent some additional photos of the hilt and the portion of the blade nearest the hilt.  Based on the blade length, shape, and apparent amount of detail on the Hercules figure, I speculated previously that Sword 17 might represent a generation that immediately post-dates the "F" swords (best represented by Sword 3 aka the California sword). Here are the new photos as they were sent to me:
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Sword 17, front of hilt and proximal blade.
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Sword 17, front of hilt.
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Sword 17, close up of front of hilt.
At first glance, I see nothing in these photos that tells me I'm wrong about the placement of this sword. The blade clearly has no fullers, and the figure does seem to be fairly detailed relative to swords from the "J" and later generations.

The image below shows the hilts of Swords 17 and 3 side-by-side (I cropped the Sword 17 image and brightened it up a bit to bring out more details).  While the hilt of Sword 17 compares fairly well to the hilt of Sword 3 (the California sword), however, I believe I do see a few spots where Sword 17 is less detailed: the lions' paws on the knees, the beard, and the grain of the wood seem less distinct in Sword 17. It would be nice to examine this one firsthand, have a look at the blade,and create a 3D model that could be directly compared to the one of the California sword.
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2/28/2017 06:49:56 am

There seems to be a circular mark on Sword 17, where the hilt meets the blade. Could that be useful for figuring out the order of manufacture, or anything else about how they were made?

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Uncle Ron
2/28/2017 08:58:51 am

Assuming two identical molds, wouldn't the temperature of the metal, and the mold, affect the amount of detail in the casting?

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Peter Geuzen
3/1/2017 06:45:54 am

To reply to both comments above, there are subtle differences all over these things due to any number of quality control factors. The group typing and chronology is based on the more obvious differences and anomalies that appear basically two or more times. The ongoing work seems to be paying off and the understanding of the history is in good shape. The understanding of the origin sword and the actual start of manufacturing is still a mystery, although the Type X model does seem to be the best candidate so far.

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Alexandr Shcolyar link
4/13/2021 06:21:40 pm

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